Today over at this article on Slice of Laodicea, Ingrid posted a reminder to everyone the worldview of Rick Warren about what he honestly thinks spiritual maturity is. FYI, Rick, being involved simply in ‘church programs’ is NOT spiritual maturity. Spiritual maturity comes through the study of God’s Word and a devotion to obey Him only, not impressing people with your supposed ‘devotion’ to the church’

In all of this, I must remind you, that devotion to the church is not a bad thing. In fact, God commands us to be united together with the brethren in Christ, and to fellowship with them. The point to be made though is that simply being involved in the church does NOT demonstrate spiritual maturity. Demonstrate your love for God by obeying His commands. That is what He wants: our obedience.


Here is a wonderful explanation of the unbiblical nature of the ‘altar call’ in the modern Arminian church. This is a link to today’s post on Old Truth.

“I remember being so impressed as a young convert over 20 years ago, watching Jimmy Swaggart on TV talk about the design of his megachurch, and how it was optimized for maximum numbers of people around the altar. His services on TV would often end with a call for believers to come forward and “take care of business” and get right with God. In the church that I used to attend, before it went seeker sensitive, there were always a whole bunch of tissue boxes lined up at the altar in anticipation of sobbing people. I’ve heard of extreme accounts of people wanting salvation on a given Thursday, and being encouraged by church leaders to wait for the Sunday altar call to make it happen; that’s practically a form of “salvation via the church”. These are some troubling examples of the inroads that the modern “altar” has made in post-Finney American evangelicalism, and here to get the discussion started on this topic is Chad VanRens

Another terrible example of the direction modern Christianity is headed. Saying,

“Jesus Christ is crucified and resurrected here six days a week.”

is nothing but herecy and blasphemy. When people can go to a ‘theme park’ to have a supposed ‘Jesus Christ’ hold your child and bless him, it is utter nonsense and demonic practice. How can people in their right minds go to such a place and say that your child was held by Jesus Christ himself? I am utterly shocked (well, in a way, not suprised) that people have gone this far. Unfortunately, now that they have crossed this line, they will cross the next, and who knows what that may be.

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This website, Ask the Real Jesus, is claiming that what they are saying is exactly what Christ would say if he were still alive today, and he were the one running the website. Do the people who run this website really understand that what they are doing is attributing to Jesus’ something that he has never said, and therefore are adding to the words of Scipture, and committing a deadly herecy. When the person wrote this they wrote it as if they were Christ. How can a sinful creature claim to know the mind of Christ and claim to say that Christ Himself welcomes you? Friends, we certainly are on a very slippery slope concerning the modern church.

They also add, “This website will give you the opportunity to ask me a direct question and receive my direct answer.” Wow, now they are saying that Christ Himself will answer your question directly through the internet. Slipping farther, and farther, and farther, and farther…

Slipping farther again, “As you continue to study this site, use your inner sense of the heart. Read these teachings with your mind, but absorb them with your heart. Your heart will tell you the truth; the living truth that I am.” So now the heart will give us truth. They seem to be completely ignoring Scripture altogether. For one example is Jeremiah 17:9- ‘The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?’

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Prophesying Salvation?

March 14, 2007

Some never bother to ask that question in today’s evangelism; they just go ahead and do it. They make promises that is; and they pledge what a sovereign God will or will not do. Here’s another example of that in action; it is one of the many ministry-spam emails sent to me in recent weeks. This time around, the advertising promises a certain number of souls will be saved, if certain donations are made.

I know absolutely nothing about this ministry; it might be a good one for all that I know. But one thing I do know, is that they have fallen into the wrong thinking that they somehow have power and control over how many souls a sovereign God will save. Here’s a screen shot of the email, with the ministry name smudged out and with red underlining added by me:…[Read More…]

Body Count Evangelism

March 4, 2007

More Absurd ‘Seeker-sensitive’ Facts:

Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, in Lake Forest, Calif., and author of “The Purpose Driven Life,” which has sold 25-million copies, is perhaps the most famous evangelical pastor in America. He writes often about church growth, leadership, and related issues. Here’s something Warren wrote for the Mar. 16, 2004, “Leadership Journal”:

“Three key responsibilities of every pastor are to discern where (and how) God’s Spirit is moving in our culture and time, prepare your congregation for that movement, and cooperate with it to reach people Jesus died for. I call it ‘surfing spiritual waves’ in The Purpose Driven Church, and it’s the reason Saddleback has grown to 23,500 on weekends in 24 years. You don’t criticize a wave; you just ride it as best you can. When Mel Gibson showed me his film, The Passion of The Christ, last year, I knew a huge wave – a spiritual tsunami – would hit when the film debuted on February 25 2004, and we began praying and preparing to surf it.”

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Evangelism Gone Lame

February 26, 2007

It’s here. Evangelism strategies imitating the world. The Terrible Terry Tate video being imitated by the evangelism community certainly isn’t the highest form of flattery because it is just plain lame.

Question: Does it seem that the modern Christian world is getting desperate for ways to draw people into the doors when they imitate a Super Bowl commercial?

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